Force disable invisible status in server settings

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  • neronix17

    It allows a degree of privacy, server admins should not be allowed to decide whether or not people want to hide for a while. Really if someone wants to appear offline then it's none of your business why, or even if there's a reason at all. It doesn't encourage anything. Being able to appear offline is a staple of online services, taking that away from the user does nothing but make them not want to be a part of your community, especially in the social climate we currently have where people have a fear of being constantly watched via devices and services.

    The only purpose this request has it to be abused by server admins.

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  • MagnumDopus

    This is a horrible idea.  If a user wants their privacy respected, server owners shouldn't just be able to override the setting.  Privacy powers should always be in the hands of users.

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  • onethesigma

    Privacy isn't always something that need to be respected, especially for server owner. Being invisible could be a violation of other privacy too. I think discord could be more versatile about this.

    For example:

    I have a channel that have specific roles on it, and I as the server owner, wants everyone that are reading that channel to be always seen as online. Being invisible, makes me unable to check whether that person is reading the channel or not. If i confront that person, he could easily say he hasn't read it, while he in fact has, but lied. Let's just say it was and admin room in a voting session if it would be easier to understand. Here, the online status enforcing is only for that channel, he could be invisible elsewhere.

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  • neronix17

    Online status isn't the same as whether or not someone has read a channel and if they want to lie to you then that's their choice to make, regardless of if it is a bad one.

    "Oh but they're invisible elsewhere" doesn't matter, it WILL be abused if admins are given the opportunity. Luckily I doubt Discord is in the business of letting mini police states exist so I don't think this will ever be an issue.

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  • onethesigma

    Like I just said, it was only an example. If the channel have an enforced online status enabled, discord can also notify any user that reading it. So they could be aware of it. As said before again, discord can be more versatile.

    Not every discord server is created with such freedom of privacy in mind. Many games require activity of its players. Being invisible is the opposite of it. Having too much privacy will harm the other players in the server. Why would you be a silent reader in a server that was designed for you to be active and communicate? That is selfish in my opinion. Privacy that violate other's right should not permitted.

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  • Matthew

    Please add this

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  • Tuvok

    This chat application is predominantly for games and as such, there are games where people infiltrate and hide under their invisible status on enemy discord servers. 

    Normally I would advocate for respecting peoples privacy but in the gaming world full of spies it's worthwhile being able to dictate how you want your server run.

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  • nkyoko

    you know that idiots can still spam call you when you are doing something important, if you are do not disturb. working, programming, homework. you can't disable calls from users from a switch in a setting.

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  • Muse

    It's dishonest and discourteous for someone to use discord invisibly. Server staff benefit from knowing who of their staff and members is online, and when they're online. Role-play has been blossoming on Discord, and we who own those Servers dislike people being dishonest about when they're offline or online.

    If Discord needs to roll out a feature that auto-denies calls and the like, so be it. I'm just left with little recourse when people are part of a server that is highly participatory, and they want to hide their presence from everybody. It's super sketchy, and there has to be a better way for people to express that they want left alone than to run around Discord with a glorified Invisibility Cloak on at all times, and some don't have the presence of mind to distinguish between is and when ISN'T an appropriate time to use it.

     

    PS: Notice how people who can rationally and logically defend this feature/option are being downvoted. This is what I mean when I say that many users aren't trying to learn how to be courteous to server owners/staff, it's all about "MUH FREEDOMZ", nothing exists in their perception but their own wants and conveniences, even if it makes the jobs of Server staff more difficult. Some of these users may be so young that they are violating Discord's Terms of Use just by using the app.

    Besides; this feature suggested that we just know when someone is online/offline, for users who maybe aren't clever enough to toggle their status when appropriate; we aren't suggesting that server owners forcibly disable a user's ability to auto-decline invasive calls or group DMs.

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  • RaZeFeiXX

    If you don't want people to read the channel's chat while they are being invisible you could get a bot that sets their role to "offline" and removes ability to read messages in that chat as long as they are "offline". 

     

     

    In my personal opinion, if we can't know if someones invisible or not, we should at least have the option to block users from accessing the server completely until they are "online".

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  • Muse

    @RaZeFeiXX
    Agreed. But do you know how to code such a bot?

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  • mxrItsNitroPlays

    when im offline, its not to disappear from a server but to avoid someone (usually known irl) to not spam call or message me!

    i think that it would make no sense that i cant access a server because i dont want to talk to a friend at the moment!

    Also with the thing about online people in a server, when does that matter?

    a server with you and your buddies: i should be allowed to be offline. Any other server: i can still chat because i have full access to discord so im not being sneaky or sketchy because i will be able to talk and let others know that im online A public server for anyone: do you really think theyll care if one guy out of all their members is offline? i really doubt it especially since you can still talk

    but i really think this server stuff is dumb. For example: on snapchat (since i use that a lot) people dont usually care to be unseen from viewing your story but might want to avoid reading a message you sent because they will have there reasons!

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  • PNWParksFan

    One possible compromise would be to have a channel setting to block invisible users from posting in that channel. I don't see any reasonable way to enforce this for reading a channel, but it would be reasonable to not allow invisible users to talk in a channel. 

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  • KalooNie

    Seems like an invasion of privacy but I can understand there are certain uses for it as each server is different. I suppose if anyone has issues they can just avoid the servers using it, I know I would.

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  • Sculacciapapere
    The possibility of being invisible should be given to the server owner.
    In servers where you play with deadlines or appointments many are invisible in order to specifically avoid some opponents and this is not right!
    If someone does not want to appear, just do not enter the server, if they do not want to be disturbed, they can use the "do not disturb" status.
    I ask you to add the functionality to let the owners choose whether they can be invisible on their servers
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  • 👋 Adam. 👋

    yes people shouldnt be on server if want to be invivisible they are just lurking watching and they can always just leave server and come back if dont want to show online should be servers option on this to show who is online in there server

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  • Zuek

    You guys are seeming to forget that Discord is widely used by all kinds of people nowadays, not just gamers. It'd be a pretty bad feature to advertise in your service. "Yeah, you know how in any other chat service you can go invisible for whatever reason? That can be overridden by a server owner! Forget about your privacy, eh?" I can only imagine normal servers abusing that to no end, and stalkery people joining servers that have this just to check if a specific friend is online. The privacy of the user should ALWAYS come before stuff like this. If you don't want to deal with invisible users you shouldn't have become a mod of a server because it's a feature on pretty much any chat client.

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