Force disable invisible status in server settings

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  • neronix17

    It allows a degree of privacy, server admins should not be allowed to decide whether or not people want to hide for a while. Really if someone wants to appear offline then it's none of your business why, or even if there's a reason at all. It doesn't encourage anything. Being able to appear offline is a staple of online services, taking that away from the user does nothing but make them not want to be a part of your community, especially in the social climate we currently have where people have a fear of being constantly watched via devices and services.

    The only purpose this request has it to be abused by server admins.

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  • MagnumDopus

    This is a horrible idea.  If a user wants their privacy respected, server owners shouldn't just be able to override the setting.  Privacy powers should always be in the hands of users.

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  • RaZeFeiXX

    If you don't want people to read the channel's chat while they are being invisible you could get a bot that sets their role to "offline" and removes ability to read messages in that chat as long as they are "offline". 

     

     

    In my personal opinion, if we can't know if someones invisible or not, we should at least have the option to block users from accessing the server completely until they are "online".

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  • kyoko

    you know that idiots can still spam call you when you are doing something important, if you are do not disturb. working, programming, homework. you can't disable calls from users from a switch in a setting.

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  • Zuek

    You guys are seeming to forget that Discord is widely used by all kinds of people nowadays, not just gamers. It'd be a pretty bad feature to advertise in your service. "Yeah, you know how in any other chat service you can go invisible for whatever reason? That can be overridden by a server owner! Forget about your privacy, eh?" I can only imagine normal servers abusing that to no end, and stalkery people joining servers that have this just to check if a specific friend is online. The privacy of the user should ALWAYS come before stuff like this. If you don't want to deal with invisible users you shouldn't have become a mod of a server because it's a feature on pretty much any chat client.

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  • neronix17

    Online status isn't the same as whether or not someone has read a channel and if they want to lie to you then that's their choice to make, regardless of if it is a bad one.

    "Oh but they're invisible elsewhere" doesn't matter, it WILL be abused if admins are given the opportunity. Luckily I doubt Discord is in the business of letting mini police states exist so I don't think this will ever be an issue.

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  • ItsNitroPlays

    when im offline, its not to disappear from a server but to avoid someone (usually known irl) to not spam call or message me!

    i think that it would make no sense that i cant access a server because i dont want to talk to a friend at the moment!

    Also with the thing about online people in a server, when does that matter?

    a server with you and your buddies: i should be allowed to be offline. Any other server: i can still chat because i have full access to discord so im not being sneaky or sketchy because i will be able to talk and let others know that im online A public server for anyone: do you really think theyll care if one guy out of all their members is offline? i really doubt it especially since you can still talk

    but i really think this server stuff is dumb. For example: on snapchat (since i use that a lot) people dont usually care to be unseen from viewing your story but might want to avoid reading a message you sent because they will have there reasons!

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  • KalooNie

    Seems like an invasion of privacy but I can understand there are certain uses for it as each server is different. I suppose if anyone has issues they can just avoid the servers using it, I know I would.

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  • Jestdie

    I see no good reason a user should be unable to go into invisible status. I have read though all of the comments that have been posted so far. From the people that agree with this idea, they all sound overly obsessive. In what world does me or anyone else going invisible affect your life? One dude said this feature could destroy communities. I am really curious to know how in the world that is possible. 

    At the end of the day the one who proposed this change and everyone agreeing to it seem like all they want is the ability to force people to respond to their messages. I image it is something like, "I know you are online! WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME!". I would bet my bottom dollar that this is the exact thing that made the original poster propose this shitty idea. If this is not the case I would love to hear the reason that someone being invisible is affecting you or your community. 

    No one should ever have the power to decided some else's level of privacy.  If someone is somehow disturbing your server by being invisible kick them. This is the power you have as server admins, you have no need or right to force someone to appear online.  

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  • Misa

    this is the dumbest suggestion ever, "let's dictate people into doing whatever we want in our server". 
    If you want an actual solution to the problem where you want to know who's read a certain post or posts in a certain channel, then suggest a function where you can keep track of who's seen or read a certain post.

    as a server owner wanting to take away the ability to appear offline is like you just wanna be a dictator, nothing more. 
    if you don't like that people can set their OWN status to whatever the heck they want, that's really your own problem. 
    can't handle that? don't create a server or invite people to it

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  • Muse

    @RaZeFeiXX
    Agreed. But do you know how to code such a bot?

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  • PNWParksFan

    One possible compromise would be to have a channel setting to block invisible users from posting in that channel. I don't see any reasonable way to enforce this for reading a channel, but it would be reasonable to not allow invisible users to talk in a channel. 

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  • kyoko

    no one wants to come into your weird erp shit and lurk.

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  • Saluki

    As other have already said, this would be a horrible violation of our privacy, and shouldn't be implemented for that reason alone. If someone wants to be invisible, then let them, otherwise you are defeating the point of invisible mode.

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  • Misa

    and people supporting this are still maintaining the trend of crying "I want the people in my server to do exactly what I like" instead of looking at it from the ACTUAL logical perspective

    again, don't like people having their own choice of status? then don't invite people to your server

    "take responsibility and start unfriending/blocking people" .... who are you to demand from people that they should just unfriend and block others?

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  • Misa

    @Muse nice edit in your post there bud, but hey invisible mode is what enables antisocial behaviour... because having an online status is going to make people 'interact' in a server. some logic 

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  • Tigre

    Welp, guess i'm being antisocial right now. If you remove the users ability to go invisible, you'll end up turning away a huge amount of the userbase. As a server owner if you don't want people skulking around then just remove them, as simple as that.

    Also, @Muse I don't know why you are complaining about invites and "Sketchy perverts to skulk around my servers invisibly" when discord grants you the permissions to disable invite links and remove people, just do that.

    Last thing, taking up space when servers don't have a membership limit and trying to enforce certain values of "Netiquette" on people is just laughable and this has really made my day.

     

    Stupid suggestion, don't add it.

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  • Misa

    @onethesigma a quick google search gave me this result:
    https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360029554971-Be-invisible-on-one-server-but-online-on-another-

    it's a suggestion on choosing to appear invisible in some servers and not in others.

    if you read through the thread you will find that alot of the people actually find the invisible status very useful, even if it may not be perfect

    anyway ... I think I made my point so it's really up to you now to throw more personal remarks or just accept the fact that others have a different opinion than you 

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  • Misa

    and I'm saying, based on my proper education which you seem to be lacking, that an online status doesn't mean that people will be social or talk. which also has nothing to do with someone being a 'functioning human being' or a 'weirdo'

    now if you are struggling to understand this, please grow some braincells

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  • Misa

    also if everyone in this thread who has used the term 'spying' refer to people just reading content in a discord server, then I guess everyone on discord is spying....

    set up some roles and permissions if you're so afraid of people reading your channels

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  • Misa

    oh dear god, I don't start my sentences with a capital letter on an online thread... I must have had no education....
    please stop making yourself look worse with every post, it actually hurts to see.

    well you're right about roles and permissions not being the issue, there is no issue to begin with other than your whining about other peoples statuses (yes it's as sad as it sounds)


    also @Muse, business degree or not, common sense still applies here. saying things like 'privacy violation isn't a logical objection' really doesn't make you look very smart... just saying

     


    Edit:

    it's pretty amusing to see how you both have to resort to calling people dumb when you can't handle the fact that they have a different opinion than you and probably come with much better suggestions than "boo hoo everyone is invisible and I'm a control freak and everyone has to listen to me so take away the invisible status now or else I cry!!!"

    but hey no matter how much you try to argue, fact is discord will never ever have a feature where you can change a person's status, because discord developers probably DO have common sense.
    sadly you're both gonna have to continue crying about people being invisible.... cause it's not going to change

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  • Misa

    @Muse act like a poor victim all you want, truth remains that you change/delete your posts whenever you've been shut down by facts.

    Edit: who's obsessively downvoting my posts and upvoting their own now?

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  • Dr Beesu 🐝

    "being part of a community means interaction" you realise what that means right? it means interaction between members. what it doesnt mean is forcing people to interact when they dont want to which is @misa's point I believe. that will NEVER work you cant just remove something like this and expect people to start interacting more, infact people will interact less because instead of "appearing offline" they will just go offline, fact is alot of people just dont have something to say alot of the time and that is fine.

    also removing or blocking someone who you dont want to speak to right now is a terrible piece of advice and shows to me you have no understanding of how people interact it is a huge overreaction alot of the time, say its late and you need to be at work the next day and someone messages you, do you want to respond and keep yourself up? no ofc not, do you hate that person and wish to block them? also no...

    saying this feature has no purpose shows you two have a very narrow view point and dont see the bigger picture and have resorted to personally attacking the person rather than their argument.

    at this point it looks like you are both nosy server owners who have been ghosted before by someone, got butthurt and are now crusading against the feature and think being able to violate someone elses privacy is okay to do if you are a "server owner" which it is not.  (btw thinking being a server owner gives you any type of real power is a completely pointless considering how easy it is to create a server.)  

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  • Misa

    @Muse you're just getting pathetic at this point...
    everyone who downvotes you or has a different opinion than you is a 'troll' ok

    lol 'deceitful' 'inessential' , I feel bad for you that you've been ignored by people appearing offline, but I completely understand based on what I've seen from you, why they would do that tbh


    Also nice edit, here's mine:

    someone already suggested the channels being invisible to people appearing offline. maybe you should read the whole thread first

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  • onethesigma

    Hi, @muse I'm a fan of your band! But I quite disliked the new album though.

    @misa, I guess discord just copied that from other social media, not from general users' point of view, so here we are discussing (debating) this topic

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  • Dr Beesu 🐝

    sorry @muse but you are not above anyone here if you look back at your own posts you can see you are the one who started with the insulting language here describing those who use and like the feature and skulking, creeping around and calling them "sick" and "perverts" not sure what type of server you are running there if people looking at posts without you knowing are perverts...

    also looking at that list those things you said must better describe yourself than anyone considering you have done nothing but resorted to insults now calling people "narcs" for disagreeing with you this is textbook inflated ego and "delusions of grandeur"  eg you thinking because you are a server owner you are entitled to additional perks and have the right to violate their privacy 

     

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  • onethesigma

    Thanks @misa and yeah, it's just an personal opinion. I just honestly thought discord can be more versatile. That's it.

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  • onethesigma

    You guys clearly have plenty of extra time. Please continue this debates. And I want to make a confession, I upvoted one of my downvoted comments to make it 0 again lol lol lol

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  • kyoko

    No one cares about your RP servers! Your weird erp only makes a small userbase of discord. The rest of discord have no problem with it and wouldn't want it removed. Discord has no time to add features that benefit a minority when the majority want it back

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  • Levi  Ackerman

    It would be a useful tool to have for server owners but I can also understand why people would want privacy maybe they could implement it in a way server owners can turn on a that setting that makes it so you can't be invisible in the server but maybe you could have a option to give people access to invisible if they have a reason I understand this night not work for some of the bigger servers but it could be a good thing to look at

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