Editing others messages

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  • YLO

    Bad idea This can be abused And faluse reports

  • Emcee

    It could be abused but only if there is no log of who edited it. I also use Discord for the same reason. Roleplay writing websites began in forums like proboards, jcink, and invisionfree but a lot of people find that Discord can be adapted incredibly well for the same purpose. In those forums, administrators and moderators that were gifted the ability to do so (wow, this sounds a lot like the roles that Discord allows server administrators to customize), were allowed to edit other members' posts but there was always a little tag in the bottom right corner (I'm thinking of proboards at the moment), that allowed everyone who saw the post to see that it had been edited. I imagine that if you clicked on it, there was also a place it would take you to, detailing the changes. However, I never encountered a situation where I felt like I needed to click that link and neither did anyone else I knew on the sites. It was incredibly helpful for editing threads called claims where a member fills out a template form and then an administrator edits the original post to add their information. As of right now, I am the only one who can edit something like this. This makes it difficult when I'm not around for my co-admin to take care of business and everyone has to wait until I handle it. This may not sound like a big deal to you but it really halts the process for a member who just wants to get down to writing when they have to wait for something to be accepted. The whole point of having moderators and co-admin is so that all of the work doesn't fall to just you and so you don't have to be around all the time. it sucks to make people wait if you can't be on for a couple of days. A lot of us have real lives. I would love to be available all the time, but I'm not. This feature would be incredibly useful and there are ways to make it safer. For a complex, beautiful program like Discord, I think that it would be highly beneficial to at least try until there is evidence of trouble. It's not like it hasn't already taken larger risks. 

  • Mils

    I've seen a lot of people wanting the ability to edit another member's messages, but if discord has the permission for that it could be used for framing or trying to get someone else in trouble.

  • Tiger
    That would easily be abused by other people ( admins/staff members )
  • Greem

    While a good idea, that would be overly abused.

  • agenderemrys

    It surprises me this isn't already a thing - like Emcee says, forum mods could do it and it was useful there. It'd be nice to have on discord, too. We have the ability to delete other people's posts as admins and mods on discord, why not edit, too?

  • Rob ( AgentoUK )

    @YLO , having this as a permission WOULD limit abuse.  If you can't trust users to edit responsibly, don't grant it. Having changes logged (textas it was before/after) would be good, but not required.  When a message is changed by the user it says (edited) it should say (last edited by @AgentoUK) The message should then be locked, so the original poster could not edit it again (and undo the changes), or even delete the message.

  • monkey10012438

    @Rob (AgentoUK) but then someone else could just mess with the original person and they wouldn't be able to change it back or delete it if it says what the original person doesn't want it to say thus taking away thier voice and more importantly they would have to rely on someone else to change it for them. So basically you're saying that anyone with permission can just edit the text and the original person cannot add to it or delete it thus making this permission obsolete because you still have some one not being able to make changes to the post. there should be a feature where if someone else edits it then anyone with permission can see the message before it so that way if anyone corrupts the message and ruins it essentially, anyone with permission would be able to revert it back to the message that the post is supposed to say instead of the joke that it currently is said.

  • Marmotfox

    @monkey10012438 Yes, an edit log of some sort would be able to fix that issue (similar to the presently-existent audit log). This would prevent these issues. As I said in the original post, I believe that it would be important to have some sort of note of edits, albeit this permission is allowed on many forums without as many extensive checks, and I have never had any issues with it in all of my time being an administrator, moderator, or simply a member of several forums, just with the tag of "Edited by [Username]." However, I do appreciate the caution and think that a log of this type could be particularly handy in defense of users and the integrity of their posts.

  • Rob ( AgentoUK )

    @monkey10012438, we all know what COULD happen if it's abused. But it's the same as any permission. Admins can delete any message already (removing the users "voice") or server mute a user ( literally removing their voice). As stated by OP, there are completely legit, and I'd argue vital, reasons for wanting this ability. If it was implemented, making it was clear it has been edited, and showing everyone what the original content was. Why would this not address most of your reservations?

  • nani

    Now, everyone here is saying that it would be abused, but that would be entirely the server owner's wrongdoing. They were the ones who granted that permission, and they are fully responsible for what they have done within the server. 

  • ! LFT Wondeys

    What about you can see who edited the message. For example: Message (edited by {name})

  • Zacatero
    I think that for any good reason there might be do have this implemented, there are so many downsides and bad uses and negative reasons that it wouldnt be worth it
  • FishFettish

    In my opinion, the only way I could see this work would be if you could request to edit a message. For example to correct or update information on a pinned message. 

  • GuyGuy

    No, there is no other purpose of this besides censorship or framing. Message deletion works just fine.

  • Ts

    I see a lot of people saying it can be abused, but so can things like banning, kicking, etc. All this would do is improve functionality and I would 100% love to see this implemented.

  • Tim

    There is still the audit log, here you could see such edits.

  • DD-HH

    Hallo

     

    ja das löschen von gelesenen und nicht mehr aktuellen Dingen sollte schnell machbar sein.

     

    So was wie > Strg+A > DEL > Enter

    Oder mit der Maus alles markieren können und dann  3Punkte > löschen auswählbar machen.

     

    Aber das will Discord wohl nicht.

  • Frosty
    It'd cause crisis. No please
  • Youckle_4

    Think about a server with shared admins and a welcome message with rules

    Currently only the original poster can edit this post, however I would like all my admins to be able to edit that topic.

  • Youckle_4

    Think about a server with shared admins and a welcome message with rules

    Currently only the original poster can edit this post, however I would like all my admins to be able to edit that topic.

  • Jonathan Spychala

    I run a business server and people have to present themselves in order to get access to more channels

    Sometimes in their presentation they put ads or business links...
    I would like to be able to keep their presentation but remove their commercial link

    +1 for this feature!

  • bastet_of_orion
    There's such a huge potential for this to be abused, though, as moderators would have the unique ability to access server audit logs - implementing an edit history for messages can get messy very quickly, despite a possible ability to show who edited what, and in what order.
  • wizplusz

    I wanted to write a bot, that will shorten the urls posted to the chat. It appears i can't do that, cause the bot can only edit his own messages. Sad!

  • Dal Stahr

    I've wanted to be able to collaborate with others in Discord for quite some time. Technically, I want to be able to (and have others be able to) post a message and as the poster specifically allow editing by [role].

  • Aqua
    This is a bad idea, with this feature a bad mod can accuse and frame other members by saying they did something bad.
  • Professor Sniff

    Please explain how this won't be abused

  • Dal Stahr

    As with posts that are edited by the owner, posts edited by those allowed to by the owner could have a clickable "edited by..." link that would pop open the list of editors.

  • Tim

    I love the idea of Dal Stahr, I would go even further in being able to see what a message was before it got edited, this is a problem I have faced in the past with removed and edited messages.

  • SuperSajuuk
    this will never happen and would be abused to no end in the majority of discord communities. Discord is not a forum software and should not contain forum-esque features such as this.

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